If your system fails to reach the set temperature when heating, check the following. I suspect it is modified by Honeywell to be less sensitive to the issue because of complaints. Getting some hugs and kisses from the wife. After a lot of Internet searching (and some unsuccessful attempts at repairing) I finally came upon this site after another 10hr work day Thursday night! DO NOT buy a water heater from Lowes. I took the circuit board completely out of the unit and let it sit for about an hour. So, it cannot lower room temperature further. Since my valve is under warranty, I will be replacing it. Now WH is working fine. It only puts out about 0.5 volts, but it is enough energy to operate everything. So I’m going to drain the tank and replace the valve tomorrow as planned and call them and see how soon they can get me yet another unit. Honeywell stinks & has caused lots of trouble for me. This can happen you place the thermostat on an outside wall. Thanks for creating this site! Jolie, even you can do this. I called Whirlpool again, they agreed to ship a new replacement for $30 shipment again! This piece of junk is only 13 months old. I did the jumper wire and at least heated enough water for my wife and I to shower .what to replace it with ??? And two finger-pressable connectors at the top. day installed it i had bad problems to lite, i called Co. they asked if a professional installed it, i told tech iv’e installed over 15 water heaters & never had this type of trouble, he kind of said that since im not a pro-with licence thats why its not lighting, i told him i didnt like this valve sytem & all 15 water with the old school red dial out lasted the 9 yr some worked till 12 years & why would i ever give $400 to install something i could do & i do know what I’m doing just that this system not working at all, i got it 3 years & I got one of the lucky ones, the (2nd one)was built 07/20/2015 i got a call Fri 29th,16 my tenant said water heater stopped working & i had showed him how tom lite it in case im not around & it turns off, he tried many times, depress 1 1/2, 2 min, 3 min & nothing, i got a chance to look into it & i had assumed E-Z fix 5 min ill have it & running, wrong spent hour doing everything instructions had, i asked my tennat at what temp he had it on, he said a lil past the letyter (A) when i installed it i had told him never pass (A) i remember a friend who owns several homes (7) & he told me many nitemare stories of the Honeywell Valve status lite (poop)he was dealing with 7 faulty valves had to pay hotel 3-5 days while they ship parts, even then the water heater co. diagnosed problem wrong, he said a couple times they told him it was the thermopile that was causing pilot lite not to stay on, he waited for part, ordered the Valve although it had warranty but it didn’t cover the wasted time, days & hotel for his tenants, but he some how found on his own that setting those types pass the letter (A) the water heater will over heat, that’s whats going on with me, i checked everything spark good, pilot lights well but doesn’t stay on & the status lite doesn’t come on at all, its like its dead, so i called Co. tech guy told me “oh that’s an E-Z one & no brainner” its your thermopile well let me tell my tenants 4 adults 3 teenagers of how E-Z they’ll have it for 4 days without hot water you certified (DA=dumb ass)i still didn’t feel good about that, i called my friend & my friend said i’ll bet you a $100 its going to be the thermo pile, call m back & have them send you new Valve & get on YouTube & sites to get help, these sites are extremely helpful, you save money, time, days waiting for part & most likely you’ll get wrong diagnosed, so I’m gearing up & ready to get hot water for my tenants, its a rotten dirty shame that so many people have gotten ripped off by honeywell & no law suits for intentionally selling they’re valves to the water heater makers they too are at fault, at least those of us that can tinker with things are able to FIY i feel for the people who have get a licence person to install, then several months later have the valve burn out, call Co. then pro to install wrong part, wait more days for correct one ? This time I left the knob in the pilot position for 10 minutes. Worked for me waiting to see if burner shuts off The led light will go off and the pilot will shut off as well. At least it works again and I’ll have the replacement ready if it ever fails again. Thanks for the submission. I will never by anything that has anything Honeywell on it again. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. On one end make two tiny wraps to fit over the left and right pins on the valve under the cover like described elsewhere. Nope! Dead as a door knob. Just like any other heating device, they are prone to failure due to being defective, installed incorrectly or even misused. In this case, your HVAC system may deliver air conditioning when the thermostat is really calling for heat. Indeed, there may be many BTUs leaking out in this way. I will now start flushing sediment every quarter instead of annually. But, don’t buy a water heater from the DIY in any case. Using a flat tip screwdriver remove the bottom screw that holds the housing on. I don’t buy enough plumbing parts to make a vendor recommendation, thank god. how do i get the circuit board completely out? I did follow the advise of flushing the tank. At Honeywell, we're transforming the way the world works, solving your business's toughest challenges. I have well water. Sometimes, home builders cut corners to save money when figuring HVAC unit size. With the new unit, since it goes into the water tank itself, do you need to drain all the water from the tank before replacing it? Light the pilot light as normal. I told her I would, but more I think about it, “F” that! These new windows took a big load off of our furnace. Honeywell diaphragm valves are the valve and actuator in single body construction for use on boilers, unit heaters, duct furnaces, make-up air and rooftop heaters SV2 Series Safety Shut-Off Valves Intelligent dual seat safety shut-off valve platform comprising On/Off and Premix functions with sizes of 1 in., 1.5 in., 2 in. This is if the controller just will not cooperate. ... Have tanks filled. Thanks again to everyone’s input… you all are a life saver! I received the new valve and noticed a few differences. So, check it for proper function as discussed elsewhere in this post. They attached a mercury switch to the end of that spring. You can set thermostats way higher or lower than the HVAC system can deliver. Loosened cover, shorted the connections, refitted cover and fired the pilot until the 7 flashes appeared again, left dial in pilot position even though it had not lit and then left it for 10 minutes. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. One of the comments below, describes a way to do this by hooking a battery to a couple of connection points on the board. But, the thermostat does not show that temperature. I didn’t mind to pay for the shipping cost, but, what I minded was the device was poorly made. Be sure you first fix the problem that caused the overheating — usually you need to drain the tank (which is recommended as periodic maintenance anyway). With 4 flashes, I unplugged the little cable for about 10 minutes and replugged in and got 7 flashes, but after another 10 minutes or so, it reverted to 1 flash and fired up. I had the “four blink” Water too hot issue. I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. Thanks for the information and comments it help me restart my waterheated. Note the LED flash sequence. Press down on the plastic cover in front of the clips to release them. Of course I would have to pay for service. But—- I haven’t tried it so go with this method. It was enough “hot” for a fairly comfortable shower actually. Glad you got it back going. Since I don’t have a location near me and have a demanding household for hot water, I opted for the $30 overnight shipping option. Going to researching flushing and cleaning the tank for good maintenance. not understanding this. My heater approximately 3 years old. Knowing the causes often helps in choosing the right fixes. This whole thread is very interesting. Land lord got a hot water heater last week because my old one was leaking. Space heaters can really come in handy for heating spare bedrooms, basements, utility rooms, laundry rooms and more. Feeling clean & grateful for hot water! Dirty heat pump coils, again, slow airflow through the condenser outside, and the evaporator unit inside. Picture: here, 4. Generally, if you’re covered under warranty, you would get the part from the MFR of the water heater. I would like to pursue the same solution (get a replacement). Then too, the data shown onscreen no longer updates. I must say the internet is a life saver for problems like these. $10.56 $ 10. My Family thanks you for the tip to reset the Honeywell Gas control valve. I did the same thing but it immediately returned to four flashes. I have set a reminder in outlook to drain my tank once a year from now on. As info only for the less mechanical people out there, if you lay down on your back and look through the sight glass window, it makes lighting your pilot very easy. Wife took the 10 dollar shipping. I haven’t opened the valve yet out of curiosity but from what I read here, the Capacitor sounds like a good culprit. Other suggestions? Read all these posts Sunday and tried the unplugging of the board then relighting pilot. In the meantime I figured the shutoff valve to the WH was not working then started to leak! As I mention in the article, in bold red text, you have to make sure whatever caused the overheat is also fixed. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part that’s gone on strike. Test all joints after install for leaks! These things foul the sensor causing the 4 blink death light pattern. No flashing lights, no pilot light, nothing. Executive summary: Once it has detected a “water too hot” event, the gas valve will never work again — unless you know how to reset it. That is, that the HVAC system does not function at all, no matter what the thermostat setting. If you have a multi stage cooling system, check that both stages are working properly. All that Sears tried to do was sell me a warranty extension for $199. HHF565B. Had to have come Tuesday. I also examined the circuit board and noticed a few minor differences, but I think the real problem was in the design and components. I did read here that a service man said to not go above “hot” setting. I pay for labor and after much debate they agreed to pay for parts. Plus, settling of wall studs can flex these wires that installers often fasten to them. I lit the pilot, and the indicator returned to 1 regular blink (the sign of normal function) as the gas flowed to the burner and ignited. Definitely will be draining sediment as a preventive measure later this week. HCE100B. Now and then with smart thermostats, a snap of static electricity near the thermostat, can freeze the touch screen. I’ll call for the replacement to have on hand and keep the instructions. Holy Shite….I’m at the end of my gas heater nightmare with one thing left to do…replace the whole valve and i’m back and running…was researching whether to do it myself, then ran into this article about the dreaded four flashes…already had the valve, and presto, in 10 minutes I had a working water heater…I love the Internet…and Tyler, you are my new hero. Hope this information helps! Or, if your thermostat does not come off of the wall easily, cycle it at the breaker box. Then, wait a few seconds,  and finally re-attach them to reboot. This house is on city water with a water-softener – it shouldn’t need flushing very often. A good business would be to offer a replacement board that has been restored for use to customers blessed with this hunk of junk! Honeywell and Sears/Home Depot/etc. If it does, the fault should clear in a few seconds. So, I decided to let it sit overnight and that did the trick for me. Thank you for your terrific post. Or, perhaps the gas company cut your service. I got my first shower in after 2 days. The two 10 inch jumpers wrapped around the left and right pins was the method that worked for me. Whirlpool send me a new igniter/flame sensor and it does the same thing. Turned the dial to low and it started heating. We have a Whirlpool from Lowe’s. The two upper pins of V push out of the cover and have doughnut shaped gaskets to seal gases. Your furnace supplies power to most Honeywell thermostats. Any suggestions? Dirty air filters can restrict airflow though the HVAC unit and throughout the home. The Thermopile already supplies the current necessary to open the gas valve! The pilot on my waterheater went out over night. King Electric Heating has over 500 replacement parts available. Did you call Honeywell directly? First, do NOT buy any water heater with this type of controller (you can zoom in on the ad pic. What you will do next is connect the (+) positive of the battery to the right top pin so your battery is across the bottom pin (-) and top right pin (+) – you should hear the click of the main valve opening. Then connected one end of wire to the metal frame of the valve and randomly shorted numerous positions on the bottom of the circuit board.. i.e. (For me it was the the inlet gas pipe on the valve.) Then I came down later when I felt the barely warm water. I touched the two top ones. Thank you so much!!! Doing this power cycles the thermostat as well, and thus, reboots it. Thanks for you insight. This problem would normally show up during testing of a new thermostat. Nothing else worked for me. After reading through everything in both Cranky and DB’s posts a couple more times, finding a 9v battery and making a second jumper wire to try the battery procedure described in DB’s post, I went back to the unit, turned the gas supply back on and re-lit the pilot, when BINGO! Pull the three wire connector off the circuit board by pulling it straight out. Regarding these Honeywell 9007884 Reliance 300 Series gas valves, the manual states that the HOT setting is 120F and the VAC (vacation) setting is 55F, but what temperature setpoint is the LOW setting? step by step please for dummies. The light went out. When Honeywell thermostat not reaching set temperature happens, reboot the thermostat. Isn’t there any way to tell the gas valve to quit having a hissy fit and get back to work? I do believe I will call for my warranty replacement anyway as it is likely needed. First off, thank you for this article and thread. At just 3 months old the second unit failed! Asked the associate, he said they are all interchangeable. NOW MY WIFE WILL THINK I’M SOMEONE IMPORTANT. Franken valve worked! I tried this simple solution you provided and it worked awesome. Once reinstalled, it went into the 7 flash mode, but the pilot lit, and when set to HIGH it fired right off. These coils have closely spaced metal fins. Thank you “Pioneers”, Thank you Tyler. This is the second time I’ve had to replace the valve. This controller issue is a serious concern for me as I often leave for weeks at a time with the rest of the family to tend to the fort, but they would not know what to do, so I shall have to give specific instructions with pics etc. So, check that all parts of that system have power. You will need two clip leads about 2 feet long each(like from Radio Shack – I used a black lead for negative (-) and red lead for positive(+)) and be able to clip onto a 1.5 volt battery (I used a weak rechargeable battery with tabs ( you only need about .5 volt DC actually). Got 7 blinking lights burner came on and back to 1 blinking light. I my case, I need to deliver about 130 degrees to get a high enough temp at my faucets. My background issue: The heater would simply stop working every once in a while, with no lights flashing whatsoever. and now I got myself a huge repair issue, what the hell is wrong with kenmore and Honeywell to make a dial that allows you to raise the temp up to A,B,C AND VERY HOT and just by putting it up to “A” now I get 4 blinking lights and have to pay a repair technician to come give me a diagnostic! Correction, meant to say gas control valve, not thermostat. The Controller should now work normally for a few days to months before it may fault again. This depends on which wires and how many of them connect to the wrong thermostat terminals. Was sent a new one with a bad (stuck) push button sparker. It installed easily. HZ425E. Or, during a summer heatwave, you might set the temperature to 72 degrees. About 5-10 minutes the 7 flashes reverted back to a single flash, maybe got lucky. The gas valve is a Honeywell WV8840C1406, red led which changes to blue, 1 flash, when everything is working right. Mineral buildup on the valve’s temp tensor cap – the metal part that sticks into the tank – could cause the high limit situation by delaying the rate at which true water temperature reaches the thermal sensor. Maybe they will help others: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/14153292543/ I want to send you a gift…..paypal?? There’s a little white plug where wires connect to board; tug wires directly away from board to unplug. I waited to see if the pilot would go off, but about 3 minutes later it started flashing normal, once every 3 seconds. All working fine now. i did just what you described and my water heater is finally on. Have tanks filled. my water heater pilot light went out. I just wrapped a twist tie around the 2 posts on the right & replaced the cover to restart the pilot then removed it when all was well & done. Make a jumper out of phone wire about 10″ long. Too good buddy, the solution you proposed works like charm, all working now ! Turn off power to the thermostat for ten to twenty seconds. Problem solved. Apparently the WV8840 valves designations are followed by a revision letter. There should be labels “red” and “white” on the gas valve to help you plug them back the right way. HELP !! This worked for me! Fixed? Again, single pane windows are huge energy hogs. 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